Ce parere aveti despre noul motor de 1l de 125cp al producatorului american ford?

[ariciul Find all posts View Profile Close ariciul]

Sigur blocul motorul nu e din aluminiu la motorul asta? La benzinare parca nu se facea din otel.

[Dozer Find all posts View Profile Close Dozer]

Nu cunosc, dar cu siguranta este din aluminiu. Pana si la anumite diesel-uri ai blocul din Al.

[raduro1985 Find all posts View Profile Close raduro1985]

Pai cu o masinuta ca asta, cu motorul putin suprasolicitat (inca imi pastrez parerea)-pt ca din punctul meu de vedere sunt doua posibilitati sa maresti puterea unui motoras ca asta:
1. fie il supraalimentezi - ceea ce inseamna explozii mai puternice intr-un spatiu mai restrans care pana la urma creaza o oarece uzura mai accentuata decat in cazul motoarelor simple; in timp ce consumul creste- ca in cazul de fata;
2. ii maresti turatia (nu e cazul pt ca se stie deja care sunt dezavantajele) - implica din start uzura accentuata a pistoanelor si arborelui - aceeasi problema cu consumul;
Iar cel mai mare dezavantaj al motorului il reprezinta dupa parerea mea dependenta de service-uri.
Daca se intampla si iti moare motorul in deal la Cucuietii din Deal nu iti ramane decat sa cauti o rampa sa o duci la un service si sa ti-o rezolve aia cu costurile aferente.
La motoarele simple, solutia e la fel de simpla: cobori, ridici capota, verifici ulei, daca ai scanteie si benzina. Daca le ai pe astea e deajuns. Legi o sarmulita unde e cazul si te-a scutit de o plata de 2-300 ron cat iti ia rampa, plus piesele mult mai ieftine.
Nu vad econimia creata de astfel de motoare, exceptand poate valoarea taxelor, dar poate curand se va pierde avantajul asta.

[Dozer Find all posts View Profile Close Dozer]

Timpurile pe cand motoarele erau atat de simple, incat legai motorul cu ata si mai faceai inca 100.000 km au apus demult. Defapt, au apus in Europa si Asia, deoarece in America inca mai sunt atat de rudimentare motoarele ).
Lasand putin gluma in schimb, te intreb altceva, 1.6 litri aspirat si 160CP ti se pare mult sau putin? Sau... poate normal... Pentru ca in functie de raspunsul tau, imi dau seama in ce directie poate lua discutia

[raduro1985 Find all posts View Profile Close raduro1985]

Sa fiu sincer, mi se pare mult. Dar la fel de sincer spun ca nu stiu in ce consta tipul asta de tehnologie (benzina aspirat).
La fel recunosc si faptul ca am cam transformat discutia din a afla parerea tuturor de motoarele ford de 1l 125 cp, in pareri despre noi vs vechi tehnologii.
In ceea ce priveste asa zisele motoare clasice eu inca am unul de genul asta pe Pugul meu 405. E un clasic 1905cc cu carburator dublu-corp.

[Dozer Find all posts View Profile Close Dozer]

Ai dreptate, discutia a luat putin alta intorsatura, de aceea imi cer scuze fata de ceilalti colegi si prefer sa ma opresc aici cu offtopicul.
Legat de motorul acesta, 1.0 125CP, daca este montat pe o masina mica/de oras, probabil nu as avea ezitari de al achizitiona. Evident, vorbind la un mod teoretic si eliminand alte variabile din ecuatia.

[raduro1985 Find all posts View Profile Close raduro1985]

De aceea am spus de la inceput, ca depinde foarte mult si de masina pe care e amplasat. Daca pui motorasul asta pe o masina foarte usoara, chiar daca motorul tot 125 de cai scoate, poate ca suprasolicitarea lui nu ar exista. Daca ar fi pe o masina de oras tot nu as achizitiona-o. Intr-un oras foarte aglomerat in care in jurul tau vezi doar masini de 2 t conduse de toti incapabilii parca mi-ar fi frica totusi. Poate ca intradevar e greu sa vezi o buburuza cand te afli intr-o masina de 2 t sau mai mult (referitor la SUV-uri) dar nici inconjurat de BMW-uri sau alte astfel de "masinute" nu m-as simti comod.
Iar in ceee ce priveste drumurile extraurbane, nu m-as aventura nici atat, in primul rand ca te sufla imediat vantul de pe carosabil, iar sansele de supravietuire in asa masinuta ar fi minime.
Deci or face-o ei, dar sa o pastreze pentru cei interesati.
In principiu, motorul asta ramane inutil.
@dozer, nu am "deraiat" de la subiect, doar ca am generalizat putin discutia privint particularitatea motorului:motor mic, putere mare, noi tehnologii.

[cezzzarica Find all posts View Profile Close cezzzarica]

Sincer la cat costa Focusul asta cu 1.0 125cp nu m-as incumeta sa dau. Am vazut ca varianta cu motorul de 125cp porneste de undeva de la 17000 euro cu tva, mi se pare exagerat. La banii astia gasesti masini de 1-2 ani mult mai dotate si mai fiabile si cu acelasi consum + mai multa putere.

[raduro1985 Find all posts View Profile Close raduro1985]

Nu stiam ca a fost pus pe Focusuri. Deci pana la urma masinile dotate cu motorul asta pleaca din start cu un handicap. Asta poate pt ca lumea merge inca pe ideea aia ca un motor mic are consumul mic.

[cezzzarica Find all posts View Profile Close cezzzarica]

Uite aici test drive, masina arata super bine atat interior cat si exterior, nici performantele nu sunt de aruncat fata de alte masini, dar nu la pretul asta, parerea mea ca as da undeva la maxim 10000 euro pe o asemenea masina noua.

[tyger_lelee Find all posts View Profile Close tyger_lelee]

Am vazut un test la tv cu acest model, rezultatul era cam asa, 13% consum urban, aprox 10% afara pe autostrada si motor de turatie adica trebuie sa sari f des de 4000turatii pentru a simtii ca esti in masina si nu caruta. E acelasi lucru pe care l-au facut kia la 1.4 scoteau din spusele lor 120 cai cand toti scoteau 90 si am mers cu unul si pana prindea 100 km/h isi dadea tot sufletul. Si pe bord ii arata 12.8% si cu ceva mers pe afara, cand ma gandesc ca un 6 in linie consuma 13-14% urban va las sa decideti voi. bafta

[dorofteius Baby Lion Find all posts View Profile Close dorofteius]

Fara sa se supere cei cu 1.6 hdi. Care credeti ca este mai durabil si mai fiabil motor de la peugeot? 2.0 hdi sau 1.6 hdi de 90 cp sau 110 cp amandoua ?
Eu am plimbat si 1.6 si 2.0. Imi place mai mult 2.0 pt ca este al meu probabil.

Vorbind despre Ford, este demential 2.0 diesel si asta spun, dupa ce umblu destul cu un volvo s60 2004 5 pistoane 2.4 d5, care suna ca enterprise.

[raduro1985 Find all posts View Profile Close raduro1985]

Totusi se laudau cu un consum de 4.8%, iar de la 4.8 la 10 cat spune tyger e o diferenta enorma. Chiar daca motorul are 125 de cai, (acum am aflat ca acelasi motor poate scoate 100, 110 si 125 cp in functie de masina pe care e pus-parca astea erau valorile), si pana la urma e oarecum normal sa fie un melc. Chiar daca motorul scoate 125 de cai, la roata presupun ca nu ajung decat vreo 60, sau cel putin probabil ca asta e senzatia pe care o da.
Acum sunt din ce in ce mai convins ca fordul a facut un motor inutil si patetic-poate l-au prezentat doar de dragul tehnologiei.

[MariusP Find all posts View Profile Close MariusP]

1. International Engine of the Year: Ford 999cc three-cylinder turbo

“This is a fitting victory for a truly remarkable engine,” said Dean Slavnich, co-chairman of the International Engine of the Year Awards and editor of Engine Technology International magazine. “For a three-cylinder to power a vehicle like the Ford Focus with such ease proves that the future is very, very bright for the IC engine. Power, response and very good real-world fuel consumption figures are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to this engine and what it offers drivers today. Well done Ford!”

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2. 2012 Ford Focus 1.0 125 Ecoboost review

WHATCAR:

What’s the 2012 Focus 1.0 Ecoboost like to drive?
Sensational. Leave your preconceptions about a Focus with such a small engine at the driver’s door, because a short drive is all you’ll need to realise that this superb unit is more than up to the job.

The first thing that’ll strike you is how quiet the engine is. Start it and it’s barely audible. Rev it and there’s an appealing thrum, but it stays in the background. It’s wonderfully smooth, with no vibration through the pedals or steering wheel.

Even more impressively, the Focus Ecoboost manages to combine this with plenty of low-rev punch. It’ll pull effortlessly from a little above idle, even in the higher gears, so you don’t have to change gear constantly to keep the engine on the boil.

When you need a burst of acceleration, it’s up for that, too; in fact, its strong mid-range performance means you’ll rarely call for high revs.

3. Ford Focus 1.0 Ecoboost (2012) CAR review

CAR MAGAZINE:

Enough tech: how does it drive?
The first thing you notice is a smoothness to make Gillette envious: this engine is barely perceptible at idle. And forget Charles Hawtrey, the 1.0-litre pulls like Charles Atlas, given its displacement. At 20mph in third or 30mph in fourth with barely 1500 revs on the clock, the Ecoboost briefly shudders like a shrug of the shoulders before the engine starts pumping and the acceleration starts building. Ford quotes 11.3secs for the sprint from standstill to 62mph in the 123bhp version we drove, which is coupled to a no-nonsense six-speed manual gearbox. Each gear pulls cleanly to the 6400rpm redline, and the engine really gets on song above 3000 revs, with the fluttery ringing of a three-cylinder engine. If anything the Focus’s exceptional mechanical refinement – you feel hermetically sealed inside – over-suppresses the engine’s wonderful note.

A little context is needed: the 1.0-litre Ecoboost may be responsive, linear in its power delivery and packing a broad torque spread, but it obviously doesn’t have the kick of a four-cylinder diesel. So it huffs and puffs a bit on hills where you might have to drop a cog or two, and you need a judicious gap for overtaking. But for enthusiasts, its free-revving nature and perky soundtrack make it hugely engaging, while the accountant in you will welcome zero road tax in year one, and trifling company car tax. And with the dressed engine weighing just 97kg – some 30 kilos less than the 1.6-litre it will replace – the Focus’s quick but anodyne steering feels lighter, the nose turns in more sharply than in heavier models, and the ride quality remains supremely comfortable.

Verdict
The 1.0 Ecoboost is already on Focus price lists, starting at £16,245 for the five-speed 99bhp unit, and £17,745 for the 123bhp six-speeder in the hatchback bodystyle. That’s just a £250 premium over the outgoing 1.6-litre engine, for a car that’ll be cheaper to run and more refined. No other mainstream family hatch can be coupled with a three-cylinder engine, giving Ford a powertrain edge you’d typically expect from the Volkswagen Group. If you like lashings of technology, a free-revving, charismatic engine and the pecuniary and ecological benefits of low consumption, the Focus Ecoboost is well worth a look. This lean upstart makes some bigger engines look puny.

4. Ford Focus 1.0 EcoBoost review

DRIVING-DUTCHMAN:

surprisingly quiet
The 125 hp version responds immediately on a light touch of the accelerator. The torque is due to a small, rapidly warmed up turbo, available from about 1,400 rpm and the wide range makes it a nice and smooth block. At the traffic light you do not need to push the accelerator all the way to get the Ford Focus him from his place. On the highway too, the Ford Focus speed up well. You do not get the feeling that you miss a cylinder. No vibration, no noise, the block is surprisingly quiet. You have the feeling to drive in a conventional Focus with 1.6 engine. Which is by the way the engine being replaced by the 1.0 liter EcoBoost. Expect no sports car, but that’s not something he is intended for. The standard six-speed switches fine and the extra gear gives a fine distribution of the 125 horses. We did not meet the promised consumption of 5 l/100km, we drove 7.2 l/100 km, but “our” Ford Focus came just from the production line.

economical
Than its weaker counterpart, the Ford Focus with 1.0 liter 100 horsepower EcoBoost. A similar torque but still 25 horses less. When starting you can hear that he have to make some extra efforts to get the weight of its place. He is a bit noisier but still wonderfully stable. The five-speed gearbox shifts smoothly and in a higher resistance, the Focus has sufficient capacity to cope with daily traffic. It promised a fuel consumption of 4.8 l/100 km, which we did not manage, we got stuck at an average of 6.2 l/100 km.. Not a bad performance because also this Ford Focus came just of the production line. The Ford Focus 1.o liter EcoBoost is also in its weakest performance a great engine. There is no-way you will notice to drive with a three-cylinder engine. Ford deserves praise.

5. Ford Focus EcoBoost

AUTO EXPRESS:

While neither of the 1.0-litre’s figures can match those of Ford’s diesel models, the new EcoBoost has other talents. At idle, it’s almost completely silent, and under acceleration there’s a muted, deep three-cylinder warble that suits the grown-up nature of the Focus.

Most small engines like this require huge amounts of revs to pull away, but the 1.0 EcoBoost has no such problem. The only time you will be struck by its compact size is when you lift off in gear and discover that there’s very little engine braking to slow you down.

6. Ford Focus 1.0 Ecoboost Zetec

AUTOCAR:

What’s it like?

Even such promising paper figures don't prepare you for the driving experience. You barely hear the thing start, and it idles so smoothly you'd swear it had stalled. Your brain tells you such a small engine will need lots of revs off the mark, but it gets going easily because the combination of a tiny turbo, advanced electronic engine management and double variable valve timing give it amazing oomph in the low gears, even below 2000rpm (though the redline's 6700rpm).

It flows through the gears, always quiet but sounding more like a thoroughbred six than anything mainstream. You'll enjoy revving it, but you soon learn that changing up in the 3000s (aided by a smooth clutch and a slick six-speeder) delivers far better economy with pretty good performance.

Amazingly, the car is even long-legged. You've got to be indicating nearly 90mph before the tacho shows 3000rpm in sixth, and it can maintain this up hill and down dale. It is already clear, however, that like Fiat's TwinAir this Focus triple is an economy car for the willing. We turned 52mpg on a medium-fast, 80-mile trip through southern Spain, where another crew, not much faster, returned economy in the late 30s. You have to understand Ford's triple to make it sing for its supper.

Should I buy one?

This engine is a game-changer. It shows just how much life remains in petrol engines of a suck-squeeze-bang-blow persuasion. And that nowadays there is indeed a substitute for cubic inches.

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O... mizerie de motor, care vine normal dupa 1.6 THP si 1.4 TSI, si te scuteste de taxe mari, ofera consum mic (daca il vrei), usureaza partea din fata a masinii pentru handling mai bun, si e destul de rafinat incat sa convinga pe toata lumea ca vrajeala asta cu downsizing nu e doar un trend.
Puii mei, pana si in F1 o sa fie motoare de 1.6 turbo daca e sa se mearga pana la capat cu planurile curente, dar noua pe strada ne trebuie 6 in linie

[raduro1985 Find all posts View Profile Close raduro1985]

Ideea este ca la F1 isi permit sa piarda cate un motor la fiecare cursa, fara sa le pese de consum; la F1 motoarele ating turatii de 19000rpm; si tot motoarele alea nu functioneaza pe benzina, ci pe cherosen daca nu ma insel. Insa un astfel de motor, indiferent de capacitatea cilindrica, costa cat o masina de serie, in primul rand pentru materialele folosite. Daca stai bine si te gandesti, ce are o masina de F1 in plus fata de o masina hi-tech sport (gen Ferarri, Lambo sau altele)? Poate cele de serie ating aceeasi viteza pe care o prinde o masina F1, doar ca nu in 2-3 secunde ci in vreo 10!
In privinta consumului, asa cum spuneam, ma indoiesc de faptul ca are un consum net redus fata de o alta masina cu aceeasi putere dar motor mai mare. E mai mic, dar nu atat cat sa scada consumul atat de mult incat sa merite. Din punctul meu de vedere e doar o falsa economie, in primul rand din cauza pretului ridicat.